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Created On: 02/15/2008 05:58 PM

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 02/25/2008 12:32 PM
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Wolf

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Ultraman,

Thanks for the advice. Your information helps me with my anxiety about this procedure. I'm hoping that my recovery process goes as smooth as yours. I also hope you will get better everyday as well.
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 02/23/2008 10:00 PM
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ultraman

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Hey Wolf -

had a great run up our local Tiger Mt. today - 2.5 miles up with 2000 ft of climb, 2.5 miles of descent, added another mile. 4 hours of yard work after. There IS life after this surgery.

i started PT 6 weeks after my surgery - but did not push it. Lot of closed-chain exercises for the quad and tons of stretching. I think the issue with this surgery is the fact that you're off the leg entirely for 6 or so weeks ( at least i was ) and muscles and tendon lose their mojo - shorten up, and atrophy. takes a long time to get it back.

wouldn't worry about the range of motion - it will come back. i spendt 6 weeks on that CPM and never got upwards of 110 degrees. when i got off the crutches it was pretty much cold-turkey - which i think cause issues with my patellar tendon. had trouble for the next 5 - 6 weeks with stairs. but - it did come back. There is still weakness, can still really feel the difference between the other leg and the MF leg.

advice - be as lazy as you want the first 6 weeks, take the next 6 easy, walk alot, do your PT exercises and build strength, then start getting back at it. don't be afraid, after 12 weeks, of a little pain here or there. Understand it's part of the game. After 12 weeks the blood clot isn't really a clot any more - it's the tissue it's supposed to be. build strenght and stretch and you'll be back at it.

keep me posted man - my goal is a run across the grand canyon and back in October - 42 miles.
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 02/22/2008 03:42 PM
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Wolf

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Ultraman,

Man...it's great to know that you are able to do 9.5 miles after 5.5 month out. It gives me hope that I can play ball again a lot sooner. My questions to you are, when did you start rehabbing after the surgery? 2 month out? Also, your range of motion...how much did you lose and how long did it take for you to gain it back? I'm currently using the CPM machine right now and the doc only limited to 90 degree of flexion....I'm afraid I would lose so much range after 7 weeks on that machine. Any advice or tips you can provide me about the recovery process for MF is great. Thanks in advance!
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 02/22/2008 12:15 PM
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ultraman

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QQ and Wolf -

i think Wolf has hit the nail on the head. i'm now 5.5 months post microfracture and doing, i think, reasonably well. 9.5 mile run last night on moderate hills (trail, always soft surface) and what i've found is that quad strength and hamstring flexibility are two keys to a successful rehab.

My injury was acute - happened all at once, and was a full-thickness defect of cartilage off the femoral condoyle in a weight bearing area. Rest of the knee was perfect - so i stand a reasonable chance of success. Was 44 when i had the surgery - but my surgeon suggested i was kind of at the top end of the age range.

The rehab is tough, not so much due to pain but from the perspective that once the knee begins to feel better it's still a long way from the point where you can resume your normal activities - thus the boredom factor. Again - i think stretching and strengh work is key - the muscles lose so much during that time of non-weight bearing after the surgery and it takes a long time to get it back.

keep us posted then on how it's going and the decisions that are made. In all my searchings for information and others experiences it's hard to find much out there.
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 02/21/2008 09:15 PM
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Wolf

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QQ,

Glad you're doing well...just FYI I also had the cortisone shot. You got to be real careful because the shot will make your knee feel like it is 100% while it's not. I went out and play basketball on it 5 days after the shot, and continued to play through out. Needless to say, after the effect from the shot is gone the pain came right back (after 3 months). My knee did not feel better and improved until I put time in rehabbing it.

My suggestion is give it 2 weeks rest after the shot, then consult with your doctor to see what you can do as far as exercising. I'm sure you have heard from him that a strong knee requires great flexibility and strength on the hamstring and quad muscles. I can't stress enough how important is it to have your quad and hamstring muscles to be strong and flexible to help a bad knee!!!!! Good luck and continue to get better.
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 02/20/2008 10:31 PM
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chellekaynva1

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Yes I see that now and am glad you are going to try to see how the injection works! Ask about Synvisc.......I am too young for a knee replacement but can have these every 6 months and so far they are WONDERFUL!!!!!

Talk soon and God Bless
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 02/20/2008 09:28 PM
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Chellekaynva1, as you can see from my responce to WOLF. I think I've made a good decision to hold off on any surgery until I've recovered a couple more weeks. I told the doctor that I'd like to wait for a while to see how the quartizone shot affects me. He made another appointment for six weeks out, said we'll discuss other avenues when I come back. Thanks very much for the encouragement. It's a big help when other people tell you their stories and give encouragement. Hope you do well with your recovery. From a recovering friend.
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 02/20/2008 09:22 PM
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Wolf, thanks for the words of encouragement. I did go to see my doctor yesterday. He was the one who suggested the microfracture surgery. I told him that I'd like to pursue other avenues before we made the move to surgery. Like you said, "give it some time to heal" and that's what I suggested. I opted for a quartizone shot which the doctor said may help. He also said that I was beyond syn-vist shots. I feel better already. I got to relax last night and get some rest. Used some ice on the knee today and it feels much better. I do hope this trend continues. Thanks again for the encouragement and advice. Good luck with your recovery. A recovering friend.
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 02/20/2008 04:31 PM
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chellekaynva1

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hi, I just wanted to say that microfracture is definately not for everyone. It depends on what your doctor found when he went in for your meniscal repair. If you have what we call OCD's in the major weight bearing portions of your knee, there are several options which my doctor suggested to me. I gave mine the choice to do what he felt was best for me. There were other things for me too......I would hold off on too much worrying about the next step until you have recovered from this surgery and then go from there.

I agree with Wolf, ICE ICE ICE. I am currently undergoing Synvisc for my knees which has helped SOOO much!!

good luck and please feel free to ask any questions you may have!
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 02/18/2008 02:59 PM
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Wolf

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QQ33QQ,

As you can see I'm not 60 and microfracture is new to me as I have just posted a question on this topic as well. I am however have been through ACL and meniscus repaired, and can provide some experience of my own.

To my understanding and experience, any type of surgery will requires time and effort on the road to recovery. It took me roughly almost 3 months to be able to regain strength and full range of motion with a lot of physical therapy, icing, and hard work on my own time after the meniscal surgery. The swelling and minor discomfort were always there, I was still icing my knee after every physical activity 4 month out. I was playing sports on a regular basis after 6 month. It took me sometime even though I'm young and in great shape. That's just the nature of recovering...it will takes time.

The point I'm trying to make is that it will take some time to heal, and it's only been 3 weeks for you...too soon for you to be discouraged and already thinking of other methods. I suggest that you address your pain to your doctor and see what he may advise. MF may not be the solution to your pain. My suggestion is to ice on a regular basis, hoping to keep the swelling down and in turn that may help with the pain and range of motion. Physical therapy is great for your knee as well. Good luck buddy.
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 02/15/2008 05:58 PM
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I'm a 59 year old male who recently had orthoscopic surgery for a torn meniscus. It's been 3 weeks now and I have quite a bit of pain and reduced movement. My doctor says I need further surgery to help my problem. I've been reading about microfracture surgery and it sounds interesting. My question is; am I too old to have this type of surgery? Some articles I've read say the cut off age is around 60 years of age. Has anyone my age had this surgery? Has anyone ever heard of an age cut-off for the surgery? I don't want to go through the surgery and the long recovery time, to find out I was not a good candidate in the first place. Thanks
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