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Topic Title: Did I dislocate and what should I do?
Created On: 06/01/2004 06:00 PM

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 06/11/2006 06:55 AM
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ashlee90

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I am also after help with this topic. I am 16 and my mother when she was my age had her knee operated on, as she was constantly dislocating her knee. Last year i 'dislocated' my knee 3 times in one day. I at the time didn't know this is what i was doing. Everytime i sat on my legs so my feet where under my backside this would happen. I was rushed to the public hospital (we dont have private insurance), but was never examined properly. Some overworked docter poked my knee a few times and fitted me with a splint. He said to keep it on for 6 weeks and i'd be fine. The day i took it off i 'dislocated' my knee again. We once again went to the hospital and her prescribed physiotherepy. After a few weeks of treatment the phisiotheripist said to stop comming, that it wasn't helping and never would. By this time mum was getting annoyed and payed for me to see an excellent private surgeon. He spent some time with me, and looked at some xrays and fitted me with a smaller brace, that didn't restrict movement but was supposed to stop me dislocating my knee. When i was little i had also seen him, complaining of pain and my knee getting 'stuck'. He opperated on me and removed a plica. I was too young at the time and only faintly remember it, but what i do remember was similar to what was happining to me now, just in the opposite leg. About a year passed after my 'dislocations' and i was fine, it hadn't happened again. I was able to sit on my legs again and had even taken up martial arts. Then last week i 'dislocated' it again. I have looked up a little information of pica's and the symptoms seem to fit me more than that of dislocation. At the moment docters are getting ready to book me in for surgery to have my leg opperated on, a reconstruction or something. Im not to sure on the details as we have talked to many surgeons each recomending a differant procedure, but all involving surgery, and long recovery times. One guy even wanted to take a peice of my pelvis and put it in my knee. Mum has had her's opperated on when she was younger and dosen't know what they did to her either as she can't remember too well. As i have already gone through the plica surgery for my other lef i know the scarring is minimal as its key hole surgery and recovery time is quick. Last time i remember i had mri's and all sorts and it wasn't even that big a deal. Now apparently my bones are sliding and they can't wait to cut me open. I think there wrong, that it's the plica problem again, but no ones really listning to me. No one has ever seen me 'dislocate' my knee as every time it happens im waring long pants. Basically what happems though is sometimes when i sit on my legs, i get this really bad pain and i usually roll over onto my back orsomething. My leg is 'stuck' like that, all tucked up and all. I then grab my leg and force it to straighten and i hear thing big clunk and most of the pain goes away, just a dull ache is left. This time though i have also noticed a band of bruising behing my knee. I have described this the best i can, and hope that someone can help me out. Thankyou. - AJ
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 08/17/2005 05:33 PM
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Patty0513

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Hi Marianne,
I am sorry to hear about your knee troubles. I have suffered from hundreds of dislocations since I was 8 years old, and it has done a tremendous amount of damage to the knees. I have had a TTT on both knees in the last 4 years. If you are knock kneed, as I am, you generally have an increased Q-angle. This can make you more prone to a maltracking knee cap and dislocations or subluxing. Since you have only experienced one or two dislocations, and you are not currently experiencing knee pain, I would give physio a try. Concentrate on getting the VMO part of the quads strengthened and see if that in combination with the LR will help the maltracking. If not, there are other soft tissue procedures that are not as drastic as the TTT,i.e., VMO advancement, and medial plication. I would definitely try the physio and if that doesn't work, see a knee specialist and discuss the options for gettin you rpatella to track correctly. There is a good site to read about the different surgeries for maltracking patella. http://www.kneehippain.com/patient/pain/surgery.html

Good luck!

Patty
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 08/10/2005 02:37 AM
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Marianne

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Hi, It's so great to read all your stories. I'm a nurse, not an Orthopedic nurse though. I fell on my right knee in Aug 2004. I dislocated my knee. It was an extremely painful process. I had my knee - dislocation supposedly "reduced" by the Orhtopedic Residents ( Drs) in a local Emergency Dept. I then had a follow up appt. with the "big wig" Orhtopedic Surgeon the next day. From there actually it was all downhill.

I had Physio for months +++. When I was visiting my personal trainer at a private health club I had joined, he discovered that my R knee was noticably dislocated ( laterally). I don't know when the dislocation occurred. It certainly was not painful when it happened. The Orhtopedic Dr. knew of this situation. He told me after viewing my Xrays that he would see me in 2 Months.

Frustrated, the Occupational Health Nurse at work referred me to a great Orthopod. He performed a
"Lateral Realease" on my R knee. This has helped somewhat. However, my R patella is not "tracking" very well therefore it makes walking a challenge. Going upstairs as usual is out of the question. I'm now going to a Physio recommended by this Orthopod. I'm now being told that because I'm "slightly" knock kneeded" perhaps I'm physiologically a tad "predisposed" to my mishap. This revelation is so OK with me actually. I now don't feel that I was such a clutch in falling. However, the "knockknee" issue may impede my recovery. I'm told that people who have a tendency toward " Knockkneeism"...whatever that looks like are challenged keeping their patellas in place once they dislocate.

I guess my question is that given the time - 1 yr., plus the impact of the changes in mobility upon my life i.e. not driving etc...what's the future hold for me? I'm seriously contemplating asking for a TTT. Everyone I know thinks this is pretty drastic. Yet, how much more painful can a TTT be than a traumatic dislocation? Presently, I have no pain in my knee joint.

Any advice I can receice would be wonderfully helpful. Thanks, Marianne Email as follows
mariannewilson@yahoo.com
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 07/24/2004 05:22 PM
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duck_knees

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Hi, Sounds like a dislocation, not sublux, to me. Dislocation is extremely painful. First time you experience it, it's really weird. I would definitely see a KNEE doctor, get xrays and ask about the likelihood of it happening again. Mine started becoming more and more frequent at your age. The more active, the more it happened. I WISH s'one would have told me how much damage ongoing disloc's would do. I'm 34 and just having the appropriate surgery done... but the damage is already "done" to a large degree so I'll most likely need new knees eventually. If the likelihood is high with how your kneecaps sit, I have a stretch that took my frequency from more than 1 per mth to 1 per year. LMK and I'll send it to you. I had an awesome PT. I wish you the best and hope you NEVER dislocate again! Dee
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 06/07/2004 05:15 AM
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Liana

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Hi, it's possible you may have dislocated your kneecap. It may have been a subluxation rather than dislocation. In a patella dislocation the kneecap (patella) moves completely outside of the knee joint. For a subluxation, the kneecap moves out of position but not completely outside the knee joint. Knees can pop and click for reasons other than sub/dislocations. You should get it checked out by a doctor, and a specialist (orthopaedic) if you continue to have problems. In the meantime, rest it as much as possible, keep it elevated as much as possible, keep it supported as much as possible, and ice it (with cloth between for maximum of ten minutes or until the skin becomes red) if there is any swelling. If you have dislocated it, you will have probably also strained/ torn the ligaments which help to hold your kneecap in place. Your knee will probably swell significantly if it hasn't already. There may also be bruising which may come out a day or a couple of weeks later. Usually after a patella dislocation, the kneecap will be immobilised so your leg can't bend (rigid brace or plaster...) for a period of weeks (varies usually around 6). It is possible it was a "minor" (I know, the pain didn't feel "minor") subluxation and the doctors may not brace it or put you on crutches. If it subluxed or dislocated, you increase your chances of it happening again - so try and be really careful walking on slippery surfaces, slopes and all twisting/ pivoting actions. Keep wearing your knee support until the joint feels strong again. It is also worth seeing a physiotherapist (US Physical Therapist) because they can determine whether exercises will help strengthen your knee joint. Because you have injured the knee, you should see someone before doing any exercises so you don't cause any further damage. Hopefully this will be a one-off injury for you and you will continue leading a very active life without further problems. Hope this is useful. E-mail me if you want. Liana.
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 06/01/2004 06:00 PM
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SoftballGal08

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Hi I am a 14 year old female and I am very active. Over memorial day I went to a picnic and was playing baseball. I went to run from one base to the other and then back and slipped on the wet grass and did the splits. I didn't feel a pop when I went down. So I was lying on the ground with my entire leg folded against my chest. My friend came over a went to touch my leg and she said I should have seen my face it hurt so bad. So I went to straighten my leg out and pop it must have popped back into place.For the rest of the night I hopped or walked with a limp and it hurt extremely bad. I did not ice it and I think that was a mistake. It was swollen and still is. I am wearing an ACE support and it still aches. Did I really dislocate my knee? Should I see a doctor and what should I do? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, A confused and in pain 14 year old
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